Getting back the blockable items sidebar?

kpm · Post by **kpm** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:57 pm

First off, thanks for another fine new version of an extension that nobody can live without. It's great that we can keep track of matching element hiding rules now! The one new feature I'm not so happy with is the blockable elements being displayed at the bottom of the browser window.

I'm displaying the Address and Type columns only (isn't this the default?), so the new display gives me several hundred pixels (depends on the length of the URLs, of course) of dead white space between the data.

At the same time, while before I could review dozens of blockable items at a glance, it's now only ten or so (unless I'm hiding more and more of the website displayed).

Also, I'm surfing with the sidebar on most of the time, since much of the functionality I'm using all the time (bookmarks, history, ScrapBook) is going on in there. Now, with both the sidebar and the new blockable items list on, the window is really crowded and there isn't much space left for the actual website.

So, at the risk of being annoying, is there a pref or some other sort of trickery to get the blockable items back into the sidebar? I'm using SeaMonkey trunk nightlies on Windows.

Wladimir Palant · Post by **Wladimir Palant** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:42 pm

SeaMonkey is one big reason why the sidebar will not be available even as option - implementing a sidebar there requires a number of hacks, and I am glad that these are finally out of the codebase. As with every change, there will be people who dislike it, but I am afraid I can only point you to the possibility to detach the list.

kpm · Post by **kpm** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:47 pm

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm sure I'll get used to it in time. Keep up the great work!

David · Post by **David** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:35 pm

i have to agree with the original OP this bottom bar is a step back and uses way too much screen real estate
the sidebar made so much more sense

i guess i will have to revert back to the previous version as this IMHO has ruined the usability

chewey · Post by **chewey** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:39 pm

You are aware of the possibility to detach the blockable elements list, right?
Then you can resize the window and position it wherever you want it to be.

David · Post by **David** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:46 pm

yeah you can detach the list but then that screws up the idea of a unified interface ie. everything in 1 window, why not have an option to choose where the blocklist is displayed eg, left/right/bottom/top why force it to be at the bottom where as the OP said you can only see 10items
before at a glance i could see 50+ blockable elements making identification so much easier
now maybe when v3 Moz is actually released to the public it would be worth debating

the sidebar is a good thing and very handy wether its reading RSS in Sage or using it as a content holder (like IE side search) even IE7 now uses the sidebar for displaying history and bookmarks, getting rid of it serves no useful purpose and is ingrained as a usable option in UI design

Fox · Post by **Fox** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:50 pm

With bottom bar, we can see LONG url's better, and that is very good. So i like it.

MonztA · Post by **MonztA** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:58 pm

Fox wrote:With bottom bar, we can see LONG url's better, and that is very good. So i like it.

That is exactly the reason why i like it at the bottom.

rick752 · Post by **rick752** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:27 pm

Fox wrote:With bottom bar, we can see LONG url's better, and that is very good. So i like it.

Agreed. Before this, I would detach the blockable items window and position it at the bottom and the full with of my screen anyway, so this is no different.

IceDogg · Post by **IceDogg** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:33 pm

rick752 wrote:Agreed. Before this, I would detach the blockable items window and position it at the bottom and the full with of my screen anyway, so this is no different.

That's what I had done as well.

Stupid Head · Post by **Stupid Head** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:40 pm

David, why don't you try it out for a little while before deciding you don't like it?

Fox · Post by **Fox** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:44 pm

rick752 wrote:Agreed. Before this, I would detach the blockable items window and position it at the bottom and the full with of my screen anyway, so this is no different.

Me too. But now, i like this bottom bar much more, because i can now at the same time see page better.

rick752 · Post by **rick752** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:14 pm

Fox wrote:
rick752 wrote:Agreed. Before this, I would detach the blockable items window and position it at the bottom and the full with of my screen anyway, so this is no different.
Me too. But now, i like this bottom bar much more, because i can now at the same time see page better.

Right you are Fox. I should have added that part too .... now the scrollbar for the page and the info itself is easier to work with because the page is now ABOVE the blockable items' list and NOT partially BEHIND it.

IceDogg · Post by **IceDogg** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:15 am

Yes, that is true. Good point Fox. I hadn't thought of that.

alta88 · Post by **alta88** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:24 am

add one more strong vote for putting it back in sidebar. the fact that it's a hack in SM isn't a reason to remove it from Fx.

at least please publish a userchrome.js snippet that will open Blockable Items in the Fx sidebar.