Blocked an image but the table still shows huge empty space

MackemX. · Post by **MackemX.** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:52 pm

I've blocked an image on this site

http://www.totalformat.com/forum/

which is this image

http://www.totalformat.com/images/topadbg.jpg

the thing is when I block the image I'm still left with a huge empty blue space as the table is specifying the size

is there any way I can get rid of this?

cheers

MackemX · Post by **MackemX** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:58 pm

wahay I'm a member

Stupid Head · Post by **Stupid Head** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:18 pm

Code: Select all

totalformat.com#table(background=http://www.totalformat.com/images/topadbg.jpg)

MackemX · Post by **MackemX** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:40 pm

that's perfect and now I've learned a little more about this great extension

thanks

rick752 · Post by **rick752** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:54 pm

Now that you have element-hid it, the image block is probably just a waste of filter space (the image is only 12k and would be cached on first visit anyway)

MackemX · Post by **MackemX** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:19 am

rick752 wrote:Now that you have element-hid it, the image block is probably just a waste of filter space (the image is only 12k)

I had removed the block for the image as I saw no point in having it

now something else and I'm sure it wasn't there before (I would have mentioned it) but now this image at the top of the page is also showing a space

http://www.totalformat.com/images/header/tfmaintop4.gif

I've tried using the same code as above but it didn't work

totalformat.com#table(background=http://www.totalformat.com/images/header/tfmaintop4.gif)

I can't quite understand why it won't work

I have noticed that sometimes the image has this link

http://www.totalformat.com/images/header/tfmaintop2.gif

there are also images for

http://www.totalformat.com/images/header/tfmaintop1.gif
http://www.totalformat.com/images/header/tfmaintop3.gif

I've tried it with a * just in case a * is allowed in this code

totalformat.com#table(background=http://www.totalformat.com//images/header/*)

any suggestions? and hopefully an explanation why it doesn't work so I know for next time

MackemX · Post by **MackemX** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:15 am

DOH!

I just realised it's TD and not Table!

all sorted now

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totalformat.com#td(background=http://www.totalformat.com/images/header/tfmaintop2.gif)
totalformat.com#td(background=http://www.totalformat.com/images/header/tfmaintop4.gif)

although can you use the * in this situation instead of hiding the 2 images?

MackemX · Post by **MackemX** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:19 am

hmmmm, it looks like it's nearly an hour between my posts just now but it was only a few minutes after posting my questions I realised

does this forum record the time you hit the reply button and not the submit button like most phpbb boards?

sometimes I hit reply but take my time actually posting

rick752 · Post by **rick752** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:22 am

You were close ... you need to look at the source code to see what ther element IS.

In this case, it is not a <table> ... it is a table cell (<td>)

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totalformat.com#td(background=http://www.totalformat.com/images/header/tfmaintop4.gif)

Read here at MY forum:
http://www.richsterling.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=557

MackemX · Post by **MackemX** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:26 am

yeah, I noticed within minutes of posting for help that it was TD

. For some reason there was nearly an hour between the post times though

Has the forum clock adjusted or something? as it's around 55 mins faster than my time now

I'd just assumed it was a table and created the code for ABP without checking the source code

thanks for the link BTW and I joined your forum earlier today as I'm sure to be popping by now and then

rick752 · Post by **rick752** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:30 am

MackemX wrote:DOH! I just realised it's TD and not Table!
all sorted now

Well then, I guess you can just ignore my previous post then (looks like we posted together)

*EDIT* and then again! .

MackemX · Post by **MackemX** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:39 am

rick752 wrote:
MackemX wrote:DOH! I just realised it's TD and not Table!
all sorted now
Well then, I guess you can just ignore my previous post then (looks like we posted together)

*EDIT* and then again! .

I'm slowly learning and I can see some good uses for this element hiding thing

rick752 · Post by **rick752** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:53 am

MackemX wrote:I'm slowly learning and I can see some good uses for this element hiding thing

Absolutely! Element-hides can do a very nice "cleanup" on pages that have been blocked, They also do a very nice job of removing the text ads that seemed to now be 'infesting' some websites.

I have found that on a lot of major websites, there now is more 'sponsored' text content than actual first-party content on pages. They integrate them into sites to make it 'appear' that it is part of the site that your are visiting .... but these links are actually sponsors. This is quickly becoming a very "deceptive" practice by sites to feed their own greed

I actually went to a massive website and removed all of the image and text ads to see what remained. I was shocked to see that after reducing all of the graphic ads and outbound sponsorship text links to zero, there was only 2 paragraphs of an article left on the entire page (plus the navigation) .... the "3 screen long" page didn't even need to be scrolled after the blocks.

... like I need 50 sponsored ads in my face because someone wrote 2 paragraphs? BS!!!!

(sorry for the rant)

MackemX · Post by **MackemX** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:08 am

I know what you mean and it's great having the option to tidy up. The thing is most people won't be aware of the options and even those that are won't know what to do. That's why I came here and got shown what to do. I'm pretty good at picking up new stuff and using it but again, will most people have the time, patience and skill to learn it?

I say this as I'm the one who sets up all my family/friends PC's and one of the first extensions I get for them is adblock. Problem is most probably don't even use it or are truly aware on how much you can improve your internet viewing. That's why I don't tell them all to also use the NoScript extension as it would probably have them ringing me all the time because they forget to allow it for certain sites

the site I linked to earlier uses narrow width but along with banners etc it adds to an already long page but now it's a little less to scroll

. I often remove top banners from sites to save on scrolling as once you've seen it many times I see no point in having it all the time and increasing your scrolling each time

rick752 · Post by **rick752** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:22 am

MackemX wrote:.... but again, will most people have the time, patience and skill to learn it?

No they won't ... nor should they. The whole idea with ABP and subscriptions is to try and make it as painless as possible for the end-user without them having to get too involved with blocking stuff. I made the EasyList for just getting rid of the graphic ads ... its own whitelist is including in it. I made the EasyElement subscription as a supplemental subscription for people who want to get rid of the text ads and leftover spaces from the EasyList. Then we (ABP filter community) made the ABP tracking filter which is for the users that don't like to be tracked across domains.

The hope is always that once a user subscribes to any or all of these filters, they should have a painless experience surfing with no maintenance whatsoever (but things will happen ... it's not foolproof). But we like to think that it is a "pick what you want" and then "set it and forget it" kind of extension.