Rick
It is possible that you can not duplicate my problem because aol.com is not loading on your computer the same way it is loading on mine. See my post in response to Wladimir's post about not being able to duplicate my problem.
Both my EasyList and EasyElement list are up to date. I had "Advertisement Filters", and" Exception rules" lists in the PREFERENCES box but I removed them by right clicking them and choosing cut. I assume doing it that way is alright. I don't see them anymore. I will Go back to the site and "SHIFT + Reload" the page to clear the cached copy to see what happens. I assume that if I don't know what Stylish extension are that I am not using them.
Collapsed Blocked Elements
No if you don't know stylish then chances are you don't have it.
How about RIP (Remove It Permanently), Greasemonkey, Aardvark, or Platypus? Got any of them?
I tried AOL with EasyList+EasyElement+BetaEasyList on and off, tried login, remove stylesheet, enable/disable script, custom filter, Opera 9, and the buttons works under all scenario.
Short of hiding the panel "aol.com#div(comm)", Even blocking the images "www.aolcdn.com/aolp_*" leaves text links intact.
I'm using Firefox 1.5.0.8 on WinXP Pro.
In order to help you, it's quite critical that we can reproduce it. If it isn't resolved by disabling other rules and/or extensions, can we have a list of your extensions, and an export of your filter?
How about RIP (Remove It Permanently), Greasemonkey, Aardvark, or Platypus? Got any of them?
I tried AOL with EasyList+EasyElement+BetaEasyList on and off, tried login, remove stylesheet, enable/disable script, custom filter, Opera 9, and the buttons works under all scenario.
Short of hiding the panel "aol.com#div(comm)", Even blocking the images "www.aolcdn.com/aolp_*" leaves text links intact.
I'm using Firefox 1.5.0.8 on WinXP Pro.
In order to help you, it's quite critical that we can reproduce it. If it isn't resolved by disabling other rules and/or extensions, can we have a list of your extensions, and an export of your filter?
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Sheepy
You said, “If it is not ABP, then it is the absent of ad that collapse the space. In this case you cannot have the space without the ad, as far as ABP is concerned.” and I responded, “I would believe that it was the absence of the ad that collapsed the space and not Adblock if turning off Adblock and activating ad blocking in my Kerio firewall didn't prevent the problem - which it does.” I have also said, “The buttons on the page have always worked. What I am objecting to is the collapsing of the space so that I can not get access to the buttons. When the space collapses after the ad (which was covering the buttons) is removed other elements of the page take the place of the ad. These (page) elements cover the buttons preventing access to the buttons just as the ad did. My original thought was I could prevent the problem if only I could prevent Adblock from collapsing but so far I have been unable to do that.”
After looking at Wladimir’s picture of how aol.com appears on his computer I am starting to believe that it is not Adblock’s (Adblock Plus’s) collapsing of blocked ad elements that is causing my problem. My thought now is that the buttons on aol.com (as they appear on my computer) have been misplaced. They have incorrectly been placed in a space that AOL has allocated for ads or for their At a Glance Weather and Traffic feature. If no ad appears in the space the weather and traffic feature moves in. My problem has nothing to do with collapsed ad elements and everything to do with misplaced buttons and the placement of ads and weather and traffic information by AOL. My theory does not explain why using an ad blocking filter in the firewall prevented the problem from occurring but it does explain why the enabling or disabling of "Collapse blocked elements" in the options menu of Adblock Plus had no effect. I would like to thank you Sheepy for your efforts and your suggestions as I would also like to thank Wladimir and Rick for what they have done. I think you are correct in stating that I can’t be helped if my situation can not be reproduced but unless you or some one else knows how to screw up their AOL web page (as I apparently have) we have probably done as much as we can with my problem.
John
You said, “If it is not ABP, then it is the absent of ad that collapse the space. In this case you cannot have the space without the ad, as far as ABP is concerned.” and I responded, “I would believe that it was the absence of the ad that collapsed the space and not Adblock if turning off Adblock and activating ad blocking in my Kerio firewall didn't prevent the problem - which it does.” I have also said, “The buttons on the page have always worked. What I am objecting to is the collapsing of the space so that I can not get access to the buttons. When the space collapses after the ad (which was covering the buttons) is removed other elements of the page take the place of the ad. These (page) elements cover the buttons preventing access to the buttons just as the ad did. My original thought was I could prevent the problem if only I could prevent Adblock from collapsing but so far I have been unable to do that.”
After looking at Wladimir’s picture of how aol.com appears on his computer I am starting to believe that it is not Adblock’s (Adblock Plus’s) collapsing of blocked ad elements that is causing my problem. My thought now is that the buttons on aol.com (as they appear on my computer) have been misplaced. They have incorrectly been placed in a space that AOL has allocated for ads or for their At a Glance Weather and Traffic feature. If no ad appears in the space the weather and traffic feature moves in. My problem has nothing to do with collapsed ad elements and everything to do with misplaced buttons and the placement of ads and weather and traffic information by AOL. My theory does not explain why using an ad blocking filter in the firewall prevented the problem from occurring but it does explain why the enabling or disabling of "Collapse blocked elements" in the options menu of Adblock Plus had no effect. I would like to thank you Sheepy for your efforts and your suggestions as I would also like to thank Wladimir and Rick for what they have done. I think you are correct in stating that I can’t be helped if my situation can not be reproduced but unless you or some one else knows how to screw up their AOL web page (as I apparently have) we have probably done as much as we can with my problem.
John
I have found out why I am having a problem with buttons not being accessible and it has nothing to do with Adblock or the EasyElement or EasyList Filters. My problem stems from my desire to set my own default font sizes for web pages. Because I prefer web pages to use a size 14 font I used Firefox (Tools>Options>Content>Fonts & Colors>size>Advanced>Proportional>Size) to set the default proportional text font size for web pages at 16 with a minimum font size of 14. I also removed the check mark from Allow pages to choose their own fonts,instead of my selections above. It was this setting that caused the problems that I was experiencing. I have have now found out that AOL requires (other web pages are more forgiving) a (proportional) text default font size of 16 in order for you to set a minimum font size of 11, of 18 to set a minimum font size of 12 and of 20 to set a minimum font size of 13. If I set those relationships up Firefox recognizes the text size that I have set up as “Normal” (View>Text Size>Normal) and the problem does not occur. If I use the Control key in conjunction with the scroll wheel to increase or decrease font size on a web page clicking the Normal setting in the View menu returns my font size to the default font size setting that I established.
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Wladimir Palant
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Firefox only has a text zoom while Opera (a nice one) and Internet Explorer (a crappy one) have true page zoom. In fact, that's why I use Opera a lot of the time. Text resizing works fine on properly designed sites like 456bereastreet.com, but almost all sites aren't properly designed and never will be. Opera has an awesome page zoom that adjusts to both fluid-width and fixed-width layouts smoothly unlike Internet Explorer's which is buggy and always introduces a horizontal scrollbar. I hear Firefox 3 will incorporate page zoom. I just hope it's great like Opera's and doesn't introduce a horizontal scrollbar every time I zoom in.
Wlad, maybe you have ImageZoom, PageZoom, or Colorzilla? Or the website you tested on has its images defined in ems?
Wlad, maybe you have ImageZoom, PageZoom, or Colorzilla? Or the website you tested on has its images defined in ems?
What, me worry?
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Wladimir Palant
@ John
Thanks for posting your problem/solution.
It's nice to have people come back after submitting a problem to explain it was something that THEY did ... not something WE did, that was the problem. A lot of folks would just never come back, and leave the topic "hanging" there.
My hat is off to you
... AND ... it also gives us useful info if we ever hear of that same type of problem again. 'Kudos' again.
Thanks for posting your problem/solution.
It's nice to have people come back after submitting a problem to explain it was something that THEY did ... not something WE did, that was the problem. A lot of folks would just never come back, and leave the topic "hanging" there.
My hat is off to you
... AND ... it also gives us useful info if we ever hear of that same type of problem again. 'Kudos' again.
Yes rick's right. We're very delighted when you come back and tell us what's wrong. 
Opera got their page zoom perfected a long time ago, they really zoom the whole page perfectly.
I haven't got FF 2 on my machine, but the FF 1.5 I'm using do text resize instead of page zoom . It zooms images on AOL (becauze of colorzilla?), which is a surprise, but on most site (including this one) it only resizes font and leaves everything else alone, e.g. icons, smileys, textarea width, etc.
Opera really is a great browser, faster, slimmer and more secure, comes with many features that FF only offers through extensions, and many features that FF has no extension for.
If Mozilla didn't get me first, I may be an Opera fan.
Opera got their page zoom perfected a long time ago, they really zoom the whole page perfectly.
I haven't got FF 2 on my machine, but the FF 1.5 I'm using do text resize instead of page zoom . It zooms images on AOL (becauze of colorzilla?), which is a surprise, but on most site (including this one) it only resizes font and leaves everything else alone, e.g. icons, smileys, textarea width, etc.
Opera really is a great browser, faster, slimmer and more secure, comes with many features that FF only offers through extensions, and many features that FF has no extension for.
If Mozilla didn't get me first, I may be an Opera fan.