The Impossible Ad (popup discussion)

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davemab
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Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by davemab »

IrishRedneck wrote:After searching for a way to block that annoyance called LiveJasmin.. I ended up here.
Read the entire post.. and poked around at the code that ALLOWS the page to pop under.
It's a script that runs and causes the Jasmin thing to load. Get this:
No-Script
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... 2/?src=api
No more jasmin. Each site I do visit that requires a script be ran.. I can look at the script.. allow it, or deny it. and SAVE my selection.
Worked for me.
Good luck
Glad it worked for you IrishRedneck but it does not work for others.
Other users will find it beneficial to read my other posts earlier in this thread.
The easiest way and less memory intensive way is to use RequestPolicy.
RequestPolicy works in a similar way to No-Script except it will block LiveJasmin completely with no additional windows loading. It is also much lighter and less complex to operate at 130kb. compared to No-Script at 486kb.
mem on Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:24 am wrote:This (NoScript) won't block the LiveJasmin's popups caused by Adobe Flash ....
RequestPolicy works perfectly.

I know there is a lot to read in this whole thread but believe me RequestPolicy does work and if you have Tab Mix Plus or a similar tab utility you can set links that open in a new window (such as LiveJasmin) to open in the same tab.
When you have RequestPolicy loaded and then click any link on the web page that fires up LiveJasmin just open RequestPolicy immediately from the status bar and it will confirm that LiveJasmin was blocked, leaving no trace of a popunder / popup or a blank window!

All the best.
Bow

Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by Bow »

I have installed the RequestPolicy add-on, and yes, it works in removing these ads with a quick installation and no errors (so far).

However, that doesn't mean the add-on is flawless. It uses a primitive white-listing which only covers a token number of sites. What this means in practice is that after installation, you will have to click the red little flag for almost all sites you visit - at least all "complex" sites (such as newspapers, blogs, etc).

While it is quite educational to see how many cross-site requests a normal surfing pattern generates (with all the usage tracking sites, ad delivery sites, etc etc), this add-on is not ready for the mainstream user. Not even the average AdBlockPlus user, I would say. Based on my goofing around, I'd say a regular site is served by three or five different sites, and while one or two of them are needed to serve the content - the others are only there for the tracking cookies, adware etc. But which ones to block?

The core functionality of the RequestPolicy add-on would be much served by inclusion in a truly superior product such as AdBlockPlus, so that instead of a crude white-list, the people behind ABP's excellent and detailed black-list subscriptions (I'm thinking of the lists such as EasyList USA) could serve RequestPolicy too.

Only that way would RequestPolicy become usable right from the start. If currently 80% of (at least my) sites break, with the help of the ABP support people, RequestPolicy might instead work for 80% of all sites. This would mean a much more usable product right out of the box.

Since RP does work in removing the "impossible" ads, however, I'll keep it.

Just be aware it's far from the grade of polish of, say, ABP.
davemab
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Re: The Impossible Ad

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Bow wrote:I have installed the RequestPolicy add-on, and yes, it works in removing these ads with a quick installation and no errors (so far).
However, that doesn't mean the add-on is flawless. It uses a primitive white-listing which only covers a token number of sites. What this means in practice is that after installation, you will have to click the red little flag .......
Since RP does work in removing the "impossible" ads, however, I'll keep it.
Just be aware it's far from the grade of polish of, say, ABP.
Thank you Bow for your contribution but I somewhat disagree with a lot of what you have to say.
I have been using RequestPolicy for some time now and am finding it far from what you call 'primitive'. Yes, of course you have to click on the flag if it has turned red to see what destinations have been blocked and yes you have to decide which ones to block, but surely that is what it's all about - being in control of cross site requests and building up a 'white list'. You cannot expect RP to know 'every' cross site request in the world. What may be a bad request for one person may be a necessary request for another. Of course you still have the lazy man's option to click 'Temporarily allow all requests' and hope for the best, but even that is better than clicking 'blindly' any link.
In addition to ABP, having SiteAdvisor and other Hosts blocking lists installed via HostsMan (MVPS, hpHosts & BISSHosts) will also assist in this decision process.
Anyway, with experience you become accustomed to 'knowing' which cross site requests are required for content and 'allow' them, but in the end it is all down to personal preference. I think a lot of users will find RequestPolicy far superior and less intrusive than for example the 'heavy weight' NoScript which runs at 491kb compared to RequestPolicy at 131kb.
And also, I don't see how you can compare RequestPolicy with AdBlock Plus. They both carry out very different functions and they both do it very well in my opinion. Yes, and again I agree it would be nice to have this sort of facility within AdBlock Plus but I do not think this would be possible. Wladimir may be able to confirm this for you.
Kind regards.
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pirlouy
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Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by pirlouy »

From what I've seen, you just have to block this script:

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http://www.imagefap.com/jscripts/awe.js
No ?
davemab
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Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by davemab »

pirlouy wrote:From what I've seen, you just have to block this script:

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http://www.imagefap.com/jscripts/awe.js
No ?
Sorry. No! Doesn't work for me.
If you add the imagefap link to AdblockPlus and then disable RequestPolicy and also disable the Hosts file the livejasmin website will load as normal.
pirlouy wrote:From what I've seen ...
You haven't explained what you have seen!
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pirlouy
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Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by pirlouy »

I've done what someone said:
I went on imagefap. Then I clicked on "random", and each time there was a popup.
Each time, it's for the second click. So I guessed it was a script from the first click. And it turned out it was a js file which did that.

But maybe you have this popup when doing another action...
davemab
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Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by davemab »

The popup / popunder does usually occur at the second click on most sites.
However, as I do not use imagefap I am unable to comment any further.
You will find that one of Fanboy's Block Lists includes this script anyway. See Fanboy's Adblock list (Iron-Chrome) - whatever the Iron-Chrome list is I don't know because I cannot find it on the different filter subscriptions in AdBlockPlus.
Anyway, I recommend everyone to try RequestPolicy as this solves the problem very easily for most users and with various sites that cause the livejasmin intrusion. It is also very helpful in blocking other cross site requests as well.
Thank you for your contribution.
Zorpatron

Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by Zorpatron »

Goseph wrote:Hey,

someone else helped me with this in a Forum. So i wanna share it with you guys!

Open up Adblock-Plus, choose Settings > New Filter and add this:
http://banner1.pornhost.com/*

That's all, enjoy!
Worked perfect, just tried with motherless, stileproject, and efukt.
davemab
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Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by davemab »

Hello Zorpatron.
Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately this addition to AdBlock Plus does not work for some sites like xtube etc as it still produces a popunder window that requires blocking.
However I am pleased the solution you found works for the sites you mention on your computer. I think RequestPolicy seems to be the only overall solution at the moment though.
Kind regards.
trlkly

Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by trlkly »

I just don't get why ad makers bother with this type of stuff. If the user is going to that much trouble to try to get rid of your ad, they aren't going to click on the ad or do anything you want them to do. In fact, they are quite likely to discourage other people from clicking on it.
davemab
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Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by davemab »

trlkly wrote:I just don't get why ad makers bother with this type of stuff. If the user is going to that much trouble to try to get rid of your ad, they aren't going to click on the ad or do anything you want them to do. In fact, they are quite likely to discourage other people from clicking on it.
Hi trlkly. Thank you for your contribution. The problem with livejasmin is that it loads automatically when you click on a certain area of a page. You are not given a choice as to whether you want to view it or not. It is there in front of you like it or not. Once you are on the site then you may well be subjected to any number of unpleasant side effects such as malware, viruses and adult stuff that you do not want. That is why there are so many users wanting to block it at source. Also, this ad is particularly difficult to block. The normal blocking measures simply don't work. That is why you see so many posts on the subject.
Hope that helps.
Kind regards.

RequestPolicy will block LiveJasmin.
cd

Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by cd »

I have gone through this thread and there are some great suggestions and at least I am able to sort of navigate around xtube now. I'm still unable to add money to my account though and don't know what to do ! Any ideas ? What should I be blocking/unblocking to allow this to happen ?
Snoopy

Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by Snoopy »

After trying many solutions found on this thread, the cleanest and most efficient is definitly Killjasmin. The good point is that it takes seconds to add a new url to your blocklist.
No side e"ffects.
Perfect addon.
And happy new year to everybody.
niekas

Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by niekas »

I solved this frustrating popup puzzle with redirector extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... edirector/

It's not intended to be used in such fashion, but does the job better than most proposed solutions since it address the target url instead of the source.

include pattern:

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*livejasmin*
redirect to:

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javascript:window.close();
Thats it.
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Hubird
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Re: The Impossible Ad

Post by Hubird »

niekas wrote:I solved this frustrating popup puzzle with redirector extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... edirector/

It's not intended to be used in such fashion, but does the job better than most proposed solutions since it address the target url instead of the source.

include pattern:

Code: Select all

*livejasmin*
redirect to:

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javascript:window.close();
Thats it.

Interesting solution :P
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