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swarnava
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Freesms8

Post by swarnava »

ABP doesnot block ads in following sites

http://www.freesms8.in/Login.aspx

using easylist
LorenzoC

Re: Freesms8

Post by LorenzoC »

You can try adding this rule to your custom filters:
*.admagnet.*
swarnava
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Re: Freesms8

Post by swarnava »

LorenzoC wrote:You can try adding this rule to your custom filters:
*.admagnet.*
yeah i can but i want to add it on easylist
LorenzoC

Re: Freesms8

Post by LorenzoC »

Report the issue to Easylist maintainers.

Besides, having it as custom filter is the same as having it included in easylist.
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Re: Freesms8

Post by Hubird »

Having it in EasyList mean it benefits anyone who visits that site and there is no need to worry about keeping custom filters.
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Post by MonztA »

The two scripts from admagnet.net are blocked for me already by geberal filters in EasyList but I've added ||admagnet.net^$third-party nonetheless: https://hg.adblockplus.org/easylist/rev/83d28eae2b7c
LorenzoC

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Post by LorenzoC »

Why not having it in any other subscription then.
It would benefit anyone.
But wait, if we have the same sites in all the subscriptions, why we have different subscriptions?
And what if subscription X includes site Y and my subscription Z does not but it includes site K?
Must I subscribe both subscription X and subscription Z, to catch sites Y and K but having 99% other filters to be redundant?

Then, little detail, creating a custom filters removes the advertisement immediately.
Asking the filter to be added to Easylist and get it in the next update takes days at best.

IMHO one day I guess Wladimir will have to reconsider subscriptions.
Michael
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Post by Michael »

LorenzoC wrote:But wait, if we have the same sites in all the subscriptions, why we have different subscriptions?
There are different subscriptions for different languages and different policies. While I have previously discussed the possibility of merging subscriptions for identical websites, no progress has been made in this direction since the posts in this topic.
LorenzoC wrote:Must I subscribe both subscription X and subscription Z, to catch sites Y and K but having 99% other filters to be redundant?
You should subscribe to your favourite filter list and report the issues to the authors of the subscription that you have chosen.
LorenzoC

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Post by LorenzoC »

Michael, please define the concept of "favorite subscription" (read it as "how/why people pick a subscription instead of another").

And you have confirmed point one about subscriptions making each other useless by being 99% overlapping and point two about the need of subscribing multiple subscriptions because of "policies", like I need a site to be included but it does not match the "policy", I have to add another subscription (similar concept of having two antivirus one on top of another)

While I don't have anything against subscriptions and the very democratic idea that whoever feels like it can create a new subscription, I guess the concept shows its flaws. The thing that makes me doubt the most is the mechanism so any user who meets an advertisement wants it included in the subscription. This means that either a single subscription or more subscriptions together grow bigger and bigger with the theorical goal of including ANY single existing Website of the Internet, instead of having local filter lists on each user's ABP that are limited to user's Web section.
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Post by Michael »

People may choose a favourite subscription for a variety of reasons, but it is usually based on the effectiveness on sites that the person visits, although there is usually little variation on the most popular domains. I therefore suspect that in the majority of cases people accept whichever one Adblock Plus suggests upon first installation, a decision based on the browser language.

While we have nothing against people using lists of filters that they collect themselves, most people will lack either the time, expertise, or both, to build their own system and would prefer a pre-built one, something that subscription statistics affirm, with at least 60% of users choosing EasyList alone.
LorenzoC

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Post by LorenzoC »

People can't evaluate a subscription against another unless they test each subscription against thousand sites.
If I visit a site and Easylist scores a miss or a false positive that would not mean against other 5000 sites Easylist is worse than another subscription.

So you can bet people either add whatever list ABP suggests or the follow some "recommendation" from web sites or friends (who actually don't know any better than them).

About what people do, can do or want to do: besides the fact that right now users are strongly encouraged to add a subscription right after they install ABP and besides the fact that Wladimir apparently believes most people shoot on their feet every time they add a custom filter (see the proposed "hiding" of editing/composing tools as "advanced prefs"), here we are speaking of two different things. The history of ADBlock and pre-made filter sets is well known. The issues about having clueless people using ABP are obvious. BUT the current system is flawed. It is not the end of the world. Even if some user subscribe 4 or 5 different overlapping subscriptions and even if different subscription maintainers do and do the same things again and again.
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