Ad Block on FireFox: Not On IE

[username]

/sigh go online, search a few websites, find advert blockers for Internet Explorer. You'll find Norton, and AdMuncher to name but two, along with Privoxy and countless others, all that use a proxy method.

Well, I already named you one which does not use a proxy method. I'd hope you can do your own research from here.

Not making anything up, I'm just smarter than you are.

With such a ridiculous statement you just have automatically disqualified yourself and all your "arguments".

Seriously, how old are you?

Localized paths? Wrong. Start, Run, enter %appdata%\microsoft\Internet Explorer... oh no! Some complex coding that took. And by the way, that'll work on most systems, even non-US ones.

Yeah, the same works with Firefox. But whats the point? This is not security related.

3 years... if you update. Not everyone gets the latest updates for IE, and Microsoft don't provide it on all versions of Windows... and yes people are still using Windows 98.

Well, if you never update you have a general problem.

Fact is, IE features a popup blocker not only in its current version but actually since the previous one, which was released 3 years ago. You cant accuse Microsoft for 10 year old bugs. Such pathetic arguing only reveals your true intentions.

Or do you also consider Firefox a trash software because Firefox allowed external attackers to run arbitrary machine code - 2 years ago?

IE7 is an optional update for people that visit Windows Update or enabled automatic updates, doesn't mean a single thing for users that don't update or have an older version of Windows.

Again, if you dont update your software it is your fault.

I cant complain if I still use Firefox 1.5 or even 1.0 and get attacked due to a known and fixed bug.

Get real boy and present actual facts!

Actually it is since Firefox doesn't have itself locked into the system deep enough to compromise it in the same way IE can.

What does a system integration have to do with number of developed exploits? Exactly, nothing.

The fact that remains is, your "countless toolbars" are written for IE due to its popularity. As I already mentioned previously you can do absolutely the same thing with Firefox.

An operating system consists of much more than a kernel, take away the explorer subsystem and you're left with nothing.

Strangely thats exactly what Microsoft will be doing with "Server Core" and I dont think they will sell "nothing". But I am sure you know it all better than everyone else.

But generally I wondering what your point is. I actually stated the IE is integrated into Windows' Shell and gave you also the reasons why.

You really have no idea what you are talking about and in all honesty you have very little to no understanding of how Windows works, how it's subsystems work, and how bad Internet Explorer really is.

Okay, lets make a quick recap, your - actually completely off-topic - response to ColemanSmith's question included very "professional", "calm" and "objective" statements like "sucks", "nothing than Spyware", "worse in every single way" and so on.

Now I objected to this and your only justification for all your Bashing was ActiveX and VBScript, where I actually even agreed numerously times by saying that these technologies arent perfect for a public environment like the Web.

Apart from that you tried to continue your bashing attempts with other made-up arguments, which all got disproved. Among others, you claimed

• IE's default paths pose a security issue (while Firefox' does not)
• malicious third party extensions are IE's fault
• that bugs fixed a long time ago still pose a security issue, because there are people who refuse to update

Now, looking at this kind of "reputation", I am really wondering who has very little to no understanding of a system's internals? To me this rather seems like the statements and opinions of someone who just blindly follows the Anti-MS hype.

Rather than continue arguing with you, which is a completely pointless exercise, I'm just going to ignore this thread.

Escape and denial, a typical reaction when someone ran out of arguments.

You just seem to be an immature, unexperienced and impolite young Polish boy, who claims/wants to be "smarter than everyone else".


PS: On a related issue, after having removed your list from AdBlock, Firefox' rendering seems to be noticeable faster.

[username]

Once more (I guess for the fourth or fifth time)

IE's actual security issues were ActiveX and VBScript, as both allowed a more or less direct access to the system from an untrusted public environment. Apart that the general technological decision could be discussed, the biggest mistake were default settings which werent restrictive enough. This was partially fixed with IE6SP2 and in particular with IE7.

These were certainly serious issues (which could have been fixed with some quick changes of the settings) but are definitely no reason to bash the entire IE, especially with unfunded and incorrect arguments as in this thread.

[ecjs]

You weird, arguing for such a long time !

[cdahlkvist]

Not *too* harsh , I've been in IT long enough to know the evils of IE first hand...

Obviously not. If you had you would know that you need to lock any system and any browser down.

personally I haven't used Internet Explorer in the past 2 years for anything other than downloading Firefox on clean Windows installations and I do *everything* online.

Blatant lie.

What really irks me is that no one invited you to get up on your soapbox. The guy just asked if it could be used with IE and if not, he was wondering why.

Your answer was not only biased but filled with fallacies and it didn't even answer his question in the least bit.

[rick752]

Whoa! Relax guys.

This isn't the right forum for a Firefox vs IE flame-war ... that one is MUCH more fun on ZDNet's 'Comments' pages whenever an article comes out about either one

The answer to the OP's question is "no" ... but using an IE7Pro or Maxthon shell gets you a working adblocker in IE. Wladimir is not interested in making ABP for IE because the architecture is too "secretive" and unsustainable for doing so mostly because IE's code contains very fluid, proprietary code. The available IE adblockers have many shortcomings compared to ABP because they actually need to be "hacked" into IE and are limited by what MS will allow in an external plugin ... and also what MS themselves will change without notice during an update:
http://adblockplus.org/blog/adblock-for ... -an-option