Yahoo Revisited

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Yahoo Revisited

Post by Paulfox »

First I'll reference this other thread from some time back:
http://p2.forumforfree.com/yahoocom--vt ... kplus.html

and this one regarding (as side issue) proof of concept/yahoo from the "Norwegian SpyHuntress" (!) Nice outfit . . . :
http://spamhuntress.com/2005/12/28/proo ... oo-groups/

I'm interested in blocking (somehow, if possible) the blue text links on left side of email page, the "thought of the day" stuff, the flashing right side ads and have attained some success with RIPs and the following AB filters in various incarnations. These shown are not my final filters,; they're archived on CD somewhere since I stopped using them. I just gave up - period. 5k worth of RIPs and they still kept appearing when my girlfriend checks her mail - I've long switched to GMail but Yahoo is the hardest of all to "ad-fight." The first ones below are NOT links, but filters which were later optimized. Lines 3 through 7 worked well, the 8th "long one" was good, and I optimized some of them to form the 9th. Hope that's clear.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/ ... go2_sm.gif
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/pim/sp/*
/us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com(email|i|mantle|mnt|pim|sp\_mailplus)/
/personals\.yahoo/
/\.geocities.com/js_source/(ygNSLib9|pu5geo).js/
/us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com(/a/|/.*personals.*|promotions|dell|medici)/
/us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com(email|i|mantle|mnt|pim|sp\_mailplus)/

ONE filter, broken up (enter as one line):
/(\.a1|/a/ya/yahoo_overture/|flash|\.ard|\.i1|\_movies\.swf?clickTAG|reg/EC?|sgcat-shop|47x95|300x250|
425x600|us|\?!vision|/world_class_strategy/)\.yimg)/

Top 3 optimized * SPLIT so as not to widen forum - you would enter as one line:
//us\.i1\.yimg\.com/us\.yimg\.com(\(email\|i\|mantle\|mnt\|pim\|sp\\_mailplus\)|/i/us/nws/th/twc_logo2_sm\.gif)|
/us\.i1\.yimg\.com/us\.yimg\.com/i/us/pim/sp//

Does anyone know any user content I can enter since "yahoo.com" is not part of these ads' properties. They all start with either:

us.i1.yimg.com
us.a1.yimg.com

or have "SIG+" and a mile of text after them. Using RIP combined with the above filters was most effective as you could just clear the whole damn frame w/RIP and the filters "got the remnants," - but they STILL get around it. Really annoying.

Very important: filters like "*/ying/* are crap and will get TONS of false positives. There is no easy "one liner."
Mugros

Post by Mugros »

paste the HTML here:
http://pastebin.com/
and post the entry.
I only have an european yahoo-mail account. And AFAICS i have two yahoo-server in my AB-list and by blocking "ad", "swads" and "adlrec" in RIP all remaining ad stuff is removed.
Paulfox

Post by Paulfox »

pastebin looks like a cool site but I can't quite figure out what it is! Thanks for the response Mugros . . .
I've fixed it I think. I got a Yahoo account so I could "play with it" on my girlfriend's behalf, and generally did a great job.

I develped this SINGLE filter:
/(personals|shopping)\.yahoo\.com|advision\.webevents\.yahoo\.com/personals/success_stories/

and combined it with 1k of RIP's (doewn from 5k). So with a 1k RIP and 1 filter, I'm not seeing anything in sign-in, mail, address book, calendar or notepad. I've also discovered that if you "RIP like hell," and get down to that last one where the entire box goes, remember that as being "LAST>" Then open up RIP options, delete all x-paths before the final "killer," and presto - you've eliminated several lines of unnecessary x-path blocks "on the road" to the big kahuna (the one that blocked the proper frame). The "corners, side bars, middle of the box, etc" are on the way to the final result; once you have the empty white box erased, that's the one you keep and the others can go away. Brings your RIPs down by a good 75% at least.

If you want to PM me with your email, I'll email you the RIP and you can import it - 1k is quite good for Yahoo. Previous was 5k. My total RIPs are only 7k - 5k shouldn't be needed for Yahoo alone, and turns out it wasn't.

I'll investigate the "paste bin" above and see what happens. I thought at first it was a regex checker, but I guess it's an open forum for help based on what you paste in there? I'll find out . . . Cheers and thank you! /p
Mugros

Post by Mugros »

Paulfox wrote:pastebin looks like a cool site but I can't quite figure out what it is! Thanks for the response Mugros . . .
I've fixed it I think. I got a Yahoo account so I could "play with it" on my girlfriend's behalf, and generally did a great job.

I develped this SINGLE filter:
/(personals|shopping)\.yahoo\.com|advision\.webevents\.yahoo\.com/personals/success_stories/

and combined it with 1k of RIP's (doewn from 5k).
I just wonder why you count RIPs in k. Do you export them and look at the size? Why not just count the number of elements you block.

So with a 1k RIP and 1 filter, I'm not seeing anything in sign-in, mail, address book, calendar or notepad. I've also discovered that if you "RIP like hell," and get down to that last one where the entire box goes, remember that as being "LAST>" Then open up RIP options, delete all x-paths before the final "killer," and presto - you've eliminated several lines of unnecessary x-path blocks "on the road" to the big kahuna (the one that blocked the proper frame).
To get the most out of RIP the Web Developer extension is a must. With this you can analyze pages fully before RIP. You can outline elements, see the id or class in the page and so on. Play with it.
If you understand the layout of pages you can much more easily remove content.
To avoid blocking several small elements until you come to the big element that contains it all. Use Outline Current Element and look how the element path changes in the status bar if you move the mouse above the unwanted content. Get a fealing for the main element, then block any item in this block and remove everything from the end on until the big container.
Hard to describe. Practise.
I'll investigate the "paste bin" above and see what happens. I thought at first it was a regex checker, but I guess it's an open forum for help based on what you paste in there? I'll find out . . . Cheers and thank you! /p
It is a _paste_-_bin_. You can paste any text and get an URL like http://pastebin.com/523754 to show others the text you have pasted.
Paulfox

Post by Paulfox »

Cheers Mugros! I only RIP about 6 sites, but that extension looks like it might be worth it and interesting.

As for:
"I just wonder why you count RIPs in k. Do you export them and look at the size? Why not just count the number of elements you block."

The more elements the more "k," simply put (obviously). Same thing, really. I'm interested in reducing size and workload of the "ripping," and have done so very successfully in last few days. I think your suggestion would help even more, though. Thank you very much!
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