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I don't want traffic to be generated to ads

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:51 pm
by Charles Babbage
Hi.

When Im using adblock plus with the filters is there any traffic being generated to the ads? Can the ads see my IP?

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:37 pm
by asdf
Nothing that is blocked by adblock plus is loaded, so no, nothing you block can track you. This applies whether an object, image, frame, or script is blocked.

However, adblock plus cannot deal with inline scripts (where the code of the script lies within the document of the page, rather than a script html tag that just links to another file), so if you're allowing javascript on a domain, you may still be tracked by that method.

Even then, many such scripts refer to functions in linked-scripts, so blocking those files often partially protects you from being tracked anyways.

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:08 am
by mrbene
Note that Element Hiding rules do result in the content hidden being downloaded.

The majority of the rules in most filtersets do result in the ad servers not being contacted at all.

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:33 pm
by Wladimir Palant
asdf wrote:if you're allowing javascript on a domain, you may still be tracked by that method.
Sorry, that makes no sense. The server you are visiting already knows that you are there, what kind of additional "tracking" can be done with first-party JavaScript?

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:46 pm
by Charles Babbage
mrbene wrote:Note that Element Hiding rules do result in the content hidden being downloaded.

The majority of the rules in most filtersets do result in the ad servers not being contacted at all.
So the hidden ads on YouTube will contact my computer?

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	<!-- Begin ad tag -->
		<div id="ad_creative_1" class="ad-div homepage-side-block">
			<input type="hidden" id="pvaHl" value="en"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="pvaTag" value="http://n4061ad.de.doubleclick.net/adj/com.ythome/_default;sz=399x299;kl=N;klg=en;kt=K;kga=-1;kgg=-1;kcr=us;dc_dedup=1;kmyd=ad_creative_1;kap=0;tile=1;dcopt=ist;"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="burl" value="http://www.youtube.com/pva/"/>

	<input type="hidden" id="canv" value="False"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="yurl" value="http://s.ytimg.com/yt/swf/yva-vfl64727.swf"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="yeurl" value="http://s.ytimg.com/yt/swf/yvaexpandable-vfl76639.swf"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="tdl" value="http://www.youtube.com/"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="ivurl" value="http://s.ytimg.com/yt/swf/iv_module-vfl76454.swf"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="ivss" value="http://www.google.com/reviews/y/"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="ccurl" value="http://s.ytimg.com/yt/swf/subtitle_module-vfl63315.swf"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="ttsurl" value="http://video.google.com/timedtext"/>

				<script type="text/javascript">
			var google_language = "en";
		</script>

	
	<script type="text/javascript">
		ord=Math.random()*10000000000000000;
		document.write('<script language="JavaScript" src="http://n4061ad.de.doubleclick.net/adj/com.ythome/_default;sz=399x299;kl=N;klg=en;kt=K;kga=-1;kgg=-1;kcr=us;dc_dedup=1;kmyd=ad_creative_1;kap=0;tile=1;dcopt=ist;ord=' + ord + '?" type="text/javascript"><\/script>');
	</script>

			<div style="font-size: 10px; padding-top: 3px;" class="alignC grayText">
				Advertisement
			</div>
		</div>

	<!-- End ad tag -->

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:39 pm
by rick752
Charles Babbage wrote: So the hidden ads on YouTube will contact my computer?
Not if the ads are already "blocked" in addition to the element being removed. Many times the hidden rule just cleans up the empty, leftover blank space.

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:34 pm
by reepicheep
Charles Babbage wrote:

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	<input type="hidden" id="pvaTag" value="http://n4061ad.de.doubleclick.net/adj/com.ythome/_default;sz=399x299;kl=N;klg=en;kt=K;kga=-1;kgg=-1;kcr=us;dc_dedup=1;kmyd=ad_creative_1;kap=0;tile=1;dcopt=ist;"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="ivss" value="http://www.google.com/reviews/y/"/>

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	<script type="text/javascript">
		ord=Math.random()*10000000000000000;
		document.write('<script language="JavaScript" src="http://n4061ad.de.doubleclick.net/adj/com.ythome/_default;sz=399x299;kl=N;klg=en;kt=K;kga=-1;kgg=-1;kcr=us;dc_dedup=1;kmyd=ad_creative_1;kap=0;tile=1;dcopt=ist;ord=' + ord + '?" type="text/javascript"><\/script>');
	</script>
The first filter I added to ABP was to block any and all things from doubleclick.net. Followed almost immediately by google-ads and their related sites like google-analytics. Because the sites are blocked they are ... well blocked. Just because the input fields have the hidden attribute set doesn't mean that ABP can't block them; it can and it does.

I use some related element hiding rules to clean up after the filters have prevented the ads proper from being downloaded. So the page looks half-way decent because the ads didn't get downloaded.

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:01 pm
by rick752
reepicheep wrote: The first filter I added to ABP was to block any and all things from doubleclick.net.
Just be careful because "blanket-blocking" ALL of doubleclick will result in many MAJOR multimedia sites from working. Many popular video and multimedia sites are served through doubleclick. Sp pick and choose your strings wisely .... you'll find out :wink:

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:19 pm
by reepicheep
rick752 wrote:
reepicheep wrote: The first filter I added to ABP was to block any and all things from doubleclick.net.
Just be careful because "blanket-blocking" ALL of doubleclick will result in many MAJOR multimedia sites from working. Many popular video and multimedia sites are served through doubleclick. Sp pick and choose your strings wisely .... you'll find out :wink:
Not so popular ... with me; so a blanket block is fine ... with me. Pretty much every site I've every seen use dloubleclick it has been for ads only. Of course, YMMV. :wink:

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