Porting request: Google Chrome

rick752 · Post by **rick752** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:39 pm

Here's a good one

I uninstalled Chrome just now and found that 'googleupdate.exe' was not uninstalled with it and still runs as a startup ROOT application with a whole group of registry entries just for that. The 'Update' folder cannot be deleted unless the process is killed.

I have since manually removed that exe folder and all of the registry entries associated with it. Why is Chrome's own updater NOT uninstalled with Chrome? .. and why is it a root application? And why isn't Chrome's installation not available as a stand-alone full installation file?

I'm telling you:
THIS APPLICATION IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED!!!!!

halka · Post by **halka** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:08 pm

Again, rick, easy on the torches and pitchforks. Grab the full installer here, if you like: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/

...with more about it here: http://dev.chromium.org/

This one doesn't even have the updater [though i don't know how they want to do all that autoupdatin'].

rick752 · Post by **rick752** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:18 pm

Sorry about the torches

Let me just put this simply:

Would YOU install a browser made by the world's biggest "personal info" tracking company (google) who owns the world's biggest advertisement company (doubleclick) in YOUR computer .. and not be a little bit suspicious of their present or future motives for doing so? No thanx for me!

scientus · Post by **scientus** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:59 pm

safari block is only for mac, thats must be at least a big a porting problem as gecko vs webkit. Also, isn't the rendered unrelated to blocking? (element block is differnt) wouldnt it be better if it could be implamented at the application level instead of having to be in each render process?

Wladimir Palant · Post by **Wladimir Palant** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:21 pm

Rick, you noticed that it is a Beta, right? And you surely also reported this bug?

rick752 · Post by **rick752** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:24 pm

Wladimir Palant wrote:And you surely also reported this bug?

No, I wouldn't waste my time.

You know Wladimir, all I've done is listen to people whine about ads, privacy invasion. and 'user mining' for years all over the web. At the top of those 2 respective lists have always been Google and Doubleclick.

So when Chrome came out, it was like all these years of complaining about this stuff was magically washed away in just one day. It is like everyone went brain-dead and forgot what this company's business really is ... and it's not making web browsers.

Is it me, or do supposedly smart people simply go dumb everywhere all at once? People have been so concerned about annoying advertisements and are worried about privacy invasion and having info compiled about them these days .. and then look how they react when an ad/user-mining company offers them a browser with absolutely no options/features in it at all that maybe runs a couple of seconds faster and has some "shady" interface issues.

If Chrome is faster, one of the main reasons is that it has absolutely nothing in it. I DO realize that their new JS engine is fast ... but Firefox's next version will be fast too. Do users realize if they like how fast Chrome is, then installing extensions in it will slow it down again? Do Chrome users also realize that if ABP and NoScript are run on it, the fast js is worthless because most of it will be blocked? So what is the gain?

hint: Google needs a fast js engine to process their ads and user info gathering faster.

Why is a mediocre browser made by Google/Doubleclick such a big deal? ... and why would you want it? The whole idea of that should be a total turn-off.

ecjs · Post by **ecjs** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:08 pm

Hi !

rick752 wrote:It is like everyone went brain-dead and forgot what this company's business really is ... and it's not making web browsers.

Google is a business. The revenue the company generates is derived from offering its search technology to companies and from the sale of advertising displayed on Google and on other sites across the web.

Advertising is just part of the company's business plan.

rick752 wrote:Is it me, or do supposedly smart people simply go dumb everywhere all at once?

The "newer is better" way of life is pretty common. Moreover, most people already use Google as their primary search engine, so this does not look that harmful to them.

rick752 wrote:hint: Google needs a fast js engine to process their ads and user info gathering faster.

I believe Google tries to prevent people from using blocking tools by making them use a browser which :
- is appealing
- does not have a tool as efficient as ABP
- processes ads faster

rick752 wrote:Why is a mediocre browser made by Google/Doubleclick such a big deal? ... and why would you want it?

It makes using Gmail or other Google applications easier. Indeed, you can make a shortcut to them on your desktop.

rick752 · Post by **rick752** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:14 pm

*sigh*
The wolf in sheep's clothing

ecjs · Post by **ecjs** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:22 pm

rick752 wrote:*sigh*
The wolf in sheep's clothing

That's no big deal. Firefox with ABP installed still makes the web more bearable than with any other browser.

rick752 · Post by **rick752** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:36 pm

I know that

I just get very sad when (normally) smart people jump blindly "head first" into something without checking out what it really is first. This is the reason we have ads, trojans, viruses, email spam, spyware, malware ... etc.

If people were just a little more cautious, most of these things would disappear. I still can't believe that we still have email spam .... jeez, are there actually people who respond to those things? Does anyone actually buy Viagra from an email that purposely misspells all the words on the email to avoid spam filters?

People still haven't learned yet that being careless on a computer is dangerous and can have far-reaching consequences

mrbene · Post by **mrbene** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:11 pm

GoogleUpdate.exe is installed with other Google products. It seems to allow 1-click install of additional Google products and also to remain after the uninstall of all other Google products.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:49 am

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Swift · Post by **Swift** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:22 pm

Just a big shout out to the creator of Adblock Plus - been enjoying Chrome for a few days and the ONE thing that could make me come weeping back to Firefox is the Adblock plugin - now I don't have it I know how fantastic it is (was, alas!)

Cheers!

Adblock Plus Fan · Post by **Adblock Plus Fan** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:58 am

mrbene wrote:GoogleUpdate.exe is installed with other Google products.

rick752 wrote:I uninstalled Chrome just now and found that 'googleupdate.exe' was not uninstalled with it and still runs as a startup ROOT application with a whole group of registry entries just for that. The 'Update' folder cannot be deleted unless the process is killed.

Wth were they thinking... This clears everything. I'll stay clear and never install anything application wise from google again, even if I'm behind 10 sandboxes and a proxy...

rick752 wrote:Why is a mediocre browser made by Google/Doubleclick such a big deal? ... and why would you want it?

Even though I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot poll, I still think it's the lesser evil between itself and Internet Explorer.

And I believe we need more competition in the browser market. Firefox needs a good kick in its crotch and lose a bit of marketshare in my opinion. Maybe then they'll learn to integrate basic **** like an url based popup blocker and stuff like that...

Post by **Hubird** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:27 am

And I believe we need more competition in the browser market. Firefox needs a good kick in its crotch and lose a bit of marketshare in my opinion. Maybe then they'll learn to integrate basic **** like an url based popup blocker and stuff like that...

I agree, Firefox is good and is my preferred browser but unless they get their act together it will soon find itself behind the times.